During practice, head basketball coach Scott Nagy yells plays at his players, watching intently and keeping them on their toes.
Nagy was hired earlier this year following the departure of former head coach Bryan Mullins after the end of the season with the round-one loss against the UIC Flames at Arch Madness.
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The contract he signed has a base salary of $600,000, and if the team makes certain tournament appearances such as a bid for the NCAA tournament or a final game appearance in the Missouri Valley Conference could add an increase of $50,000 to his salary.
Previous schools Nagy’s coached at include the one he recently transitioned from, Wright State University, and South Dakota State University which he helped transition from Division II to Division II after their 2003-04 season.
After a long practice Nagy’s day is just beginning having meetings, participating in community events and preparing for the upcoming season
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During today’s practice, Nagy said the main thing the players need to focus on is less turnovers.
“Too many turnovers right now, some of that just comes from none of these guys have played for me, so they’re still trying to learn the system,” Nagy said. “There’s some unsureness that goes with that and that leads to turnovers, so they’re learning that we’re getting better.”
Nagy said it’s a lengthy and difficult process for him to get the athletes to play the brand of basketball he’s used to, but that’s simply the cost of building a program in the NIL (Name, Image, and Likeness) era.
“When I left Wright State, for example, I had six players last year that had been with me for four or five years. We were one of the top countries in scoring. We led the country in field goal percentage,” Nagy said. “But those guys knew our offense intimately, where our guys now aren’t even close to, you know, none of them have had any of the experience those other guys had.”
One of the biggest challenges Nagy and his staff are facing is getting the players to be comfortable offensively. Many of them aren’t used to running the type of offense Nagy wants to implement.
“Most people aren’t used to throwing the ball opposed. The game has become more one on one, and everybody stands around and watches that player play,” Nagy said. “I don’t like to play that way. And so I’m having to change the way guys think; I’m having to get them to see the way I see the game. It just takes a while.”
Out of all schools Nagy coached at, he said SIU is the most similar to his time at South Dakota State, as both SDSU and SIU are the only big sports schools in their respective regions.
Wright State came with many other big hitting athletic programs in neighboring cities.
“Where I was in Dayton didn’t have football. We were a small fish in a big sea because we had Ohio State and Xavier and Cincinnati and Miami,” Nagy said. “This has a different feel to it.”
Something Nagy’s learned while coaching is whatever schools he’s at, he has to sell it on the strengths it already has, he said.
“I like being back [at a] school that has football. I think it gives it a better campus feel,” Nagy said. “We had more of a city campus at Wright State [and] didn’t see students a lot, so I like seeing people out on campus walking around looking like it’s busy.”
While Nagy is seeing more students, there’s one important group that he isn’t seeing as much of: his family. Leaving them in Dayton after building and growing there for eight years was the hardest part about coming to SIU, Nagy said while looking at a picture of them on the wall of his office.
“They were all near us, within 30 miles, granddaughters, and now we have another one on the way,” Nagy said. “But the three boys in that picture are my three oldest, and then the two girls on the end our daughters Naika, we adopted from Haiti when she was two and a half.”
Nagy came here with just his wife, Jamie, and hopes that conveys his commitment to this job, he said.
“That we would be willing to leave that because we kind of had it where we wanted it. We got to see our grandkids all the time around our family,” Nagy said. “But this was too good opportunity for us we felt like.”
According to his staff profile on the SIU Website, Nagy played at Delta State in Cleveland, Mississippi in 1988 after helping the team get to three Division III tournament appearances. In recognition of a standout career, Nagy was inducted into the school’s Athletics Hall of Fame in 2001.
The only thing that’s changed since Nagy played was the introduction of the three-point line, he said.
Nagy said after popular NBA players like Stephen Curry came into the game, the three-point shot has become more of the norm.
“They put [the] three-point line in when I was a junior. You know, it’s been expanded since then, it’s moved farther away from the basket,” Nagy said. “That’s probably the biggest change, the three-point line has just, continue to become more a part of the game where everybody that plays thinks they have to be able to shoot the three.”
Nagy also notes some key differences between the DI and DII levels isn’t the coaching, but the extra work that comes with it.
“I would say what a coach has to do at the Division II level compared to what a head coach has to do at Division I level. You’re more of a figurehead,” Nagy said. “I mean, there are just so many more things that are on a plate, and you’re more visible… don’t have anything to do with really coaching the basketball team or recruiting.”
With being a figurehead for the program, Nagy said it’s essential to have a good staff behind him.
One of those major differences came about within the last couple of years: NIL, or name, image and likeness deals, which allow players to profit off their image. When it comes to those deals, Nagy said he’s not convinced it works well in the player’s favor.
NIL is for student athletes to be a brand and receive payments from sponsorships and other third parties separate from their school.
“It’s become almost a mercenary mentality, where whoever pays me the most, that’s where I’m going,” Nagy said. “ I’m not saying that money’s not important, but if that ends up being the only decision over everything else, and I think it happens quite a bit, then what?”
Nagy believes sometimes players leave a basketball situation already good for them for somewhere else offering more money, but not the same level of basketball, he said.
“They’re used to being the star here, now they’re just a role player,” Nagy said. “So…, even though they’re making a bunch more money, they’re unhappy because the basketball is not the same.”
Nagy also holds a somewhat unconventional belief, at least among coaches: he said he believes that players should have contracts and buyouts similar to what coaches have.
“If a player’s going to come here and get NIL, then I think he should sign a contract, and there should be a buyout,” Nagy said. “If he goes somewhere else, he should either have to pay us, or the other school should have to pay us for him to go there for you know, because we’re putting investment in him.”
Nagy said he does feel that NIL is important, but wants to make sure that the principles of the sport are still considered.
“So we have to understand and consider that money is important. Get as much money as we can for NIL, but we also have to merge it with our values,” Nagy said. “We can’t just throw our values out the door and just go throw a bunch of money at people, because they could not be the right people.”
When it comes to people’s expectations for him as a coach, he said he hopes in due time people expect the best from the team. Nagy said he prefers to not concern himself with the media and news, because if he’s worried about outside opinions, it impacts his coaching.
“I’ve learned to shut all that out, all the outside noise, and really limit the information I get,” Nagy said. “If I want to know something, I ask my assistant coaches because they keep track of all of it.”
Nothing is different about the basketball besides the players, Nagy said. Carbondale does mirror Brookings, South Dakota — home to South Dakota State — with a more rural feel than Dayton, Ohio.
“We like living in a more rural area, and we still have plenty of options. We don’t live far from Marion,” Nagy said. “There’s some things about a city like Dayton that are convenient, that you can get to and and you know, we were close to Cincinnati, so we would just, you know, outside of basketball, we had more options and more cultural things.”
Nagy said he spent 21 great years in Brookings and it was a good place to raise his children, but he and his wife will be happy wherever they are.
When it came to building his staff, Nagy said it was mostly interviews. Only two members of the staff from the previous season were retained.
“A couple of guys we kept that were on staff last year,” Nagy said, listing assistant coach Jevon Mamon as an example. “It just helps to have somebody that knows the system here, knows the players that stayed, and so then the other one was Justin Endsley, he’s our director of basketball operations.”
Mamon is going into his sixth year with the team, after working with previous coach Bryan Mullins.
“Transitions [have] been pretty good, obviously, two different personalities,” Mamon said. “I mean…30 years as head coach, he has a great idea of how he already wants things done.”
Mamon said Nagy’s one to stick to how he does things but is also open to suggestions from staff. He’s someone he’s excited to learn from him as they continue to work together.
“I think the guys know what they expect from him. He does a great job of connecting with him individually,” Mamon said. “I feel like it was one of the easy transitions, even though when you’re learning 13, 14 new personalities and new guys and everybody’s trying to learn him and what he demands from guys, it definitely takes some time.”
Expectations that the entire staff holds for the team are for them to be able to complete every hard possession and keep a high level of physicality throughout the game, Mamon said.
“We want to be the most competitive, the most physical group, to almost where we will the other team to break,” Mamon said. “As every coach… when you start talking about plays and things of that nature, obviously want a high level execution. But if the effort isn’t there, it’s going to be hard to execute anyway.”
Endsley is going into his second year as director of operations after being a student manager for the team for four years.
“It’s obviously been a big change, obviously with the staff transition back in March, my future was uncertain,” Endsley said. “I didn’t know what I was going to do, and I was fortunate enough in early April to get a call from Coach Nagy, and got to meet with him, and he offered me the position to stay back and be his director of operations.”
The process of rebuilding the team was a big task, but a good learning experience for Endsley to learn more about Nagy and his way of coaching, he said.
Endsley also noticed what seems to be a common factor: Nagy’s intensity.
“He demands a lot out of his players and staff as well, but he gives everyone a little bit of freedom to do it the way they want to do, as long as everyone does it the right way,” Endsley said.
With a lot of new players comes athletes that play different types of basketball, so a big focus is making sure the team meshes well together while on the court, Endsley said.
“He’s a man of faith, man of few words, but he expects a lot out of his staff and players,” Endsley said. “I think that part is really going to help us grow as a team and into the culture that he wants to create here at Southern Illinois.”
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Scott Nagy (office)
- Well, I mean, you know, they’re all different from from a school standpoint, you know what? What some schools have to offer versus what others do, you know? And so in terms of recruiting, just try to use that as a strength. So this, this school Penny. So This school would be more like where I was initially at South Dakota State in terms of it has football is, is more of a big fish in a small sea. You know where I was in Dayton didn’t have football. We were a small fish in a big city because we had Ohio State and Xavier and Cincinnati and Miami and so many schools within an hour of us. So, you know, this has a different feel to it. So, you know, the just whatever school you’re at, you just take those things and try to sell them, you know, and use the strengths that you have and so. But I like being back. I like being back to school that has football. I think it gives it a better campus. Feel love our campus, you know, we had more of a City Campus at Wright State didn’t see students a lot, so I like seeing people out on campus walking around looking like it’s busy.
- the players, so, well, when I first played college basketball, there wasn’t even a three point line so, and they put three point line in when I was a junior. You know, it’s been expanded since then, it’s moved farther away from the basket. But that’s probably the biggest change is, you know, the three point line is just, continue to become more a part of the game where everybody that plays thinks they have to be able to shoot the three. And you know, I would say, of all the things about the game of basketball, that’s what’s changed the most. You see a guy like Steph Curry when he came in the NBA, he’s completely changed the way everybody thinks about the three point shot
- Yeah. I mean, when I left Wright State, for example, I had six players last year that had been with me for four or five years. We were one of the top countries in scoring. We led the country in field goal percentage. But, those guys knew our offense intimately, where our guys now aren’t even close to, you know, none of them have had any of the experience those other guys had. So I think more than anything that’s been, that’s been the biggest struggle for us is getting comfortable offensively and and, you know, because there’s certain things that I want, most people aren’t used to throwing the ball opposed the game has become more one on one, and everybody stands around and watches that player play, and I don’t like to play that way. And so I’m having to change the way guys think I’m having to get them to see the way I see the game. It just takes a while. You know? It helps when you’ve coached somebody two or three years. There’s certain things you have to explain to them that I have to explain to everybody right now.
- thats what we had to leave, by the way, that’s our family.
- that that was the hardest decision for us
- We were there for eight years. And so they all, they were all near us, within 30 miles, granddaughters, and now we have another one on the way, Penny, Penny, get away from there. But the three boys in that picture are my three oldest, and then the two girls on the end are daughters Naika, we adopted from Haiti when she was two and a half.
- Just Jamie and me. We left everybody back there. That was hard for us, yeah, but I say that, that that should convey to people how good a job. I thought this was that we would be willing to leave that I because we kind of had it where we wanted it. We got to see our grandkids all the time around our family. But this was too good opportunity for us,
- I The difference is, in terms of coaching players, is no different some of the teams I had in division two some of the best teams I’ve ever coached and and so, you know, I wouldn’t even say in terms of the recruiting, and we’ve had to change a lot. I would say Division Two has changed a lot. Division II now is probably not as good because a lot of the top division II teams have gone Division I, and so Division II is probably not as townhome as it was when I first got into coaching. So the coaching part, none of that’s changed. I would say what a coach has to do at the division two level compared to what a head coach has to do at division one level. You’re more of a figurehead, like I just got done speaking of the foundation, you know? I mean, there are just so many more things that are on a plate, and you’re more visible, more that you know, don’t have anything to do with really coaching the basketball team or recruiting. It’s the other things, and that’s why you need a good staff that gets there around our players more than I am, because I’m out doing other, you know, representing our program and doing those things so that that’s a little bit more different at Division One level. The process from going Division Two Division One was very difficult ways, well before we started that. So my first, I believe, my first eight years there, we went to seven out of eight division two tournaments, we won 80% of our games, and we went and then when we made the move, we weren’t even ready. I still only had one assistant coach.
- Yeah, so we went. When we made the move, we had no League. We were in no League. So it’s hard to find games in January and February because everybody’s playing league games. We were traveling all over the country. We couldn’t keep players my first year, a lot of the kids transfered because we weren’t eligible for any NCAA Tournament. So that very first year, we were starting two great kids and good players, but they were both walk ons for us at the division two level, and here we’re playing at the division one level with two walk on guards. At Division Two, we had a year where we won six games like I’ve never had that my life, yeah. And so we won six games, eight games, 13 game. I mean, it was just, it was not very easy for me, because it’s not, you know, but it was good for me, when I look back on it, it made me a better coach. I had to figure out how to win games with less talent, where before I just had better players, and we just pounded to death. Then all of a sudden, everybody had better players than me, and I had really learned how to coach. So it was good for me, even though it was hard. Yeah,
- Now we’re pride of Little Egypt
- I, I don’t necessarily think it’s great for the players. You know, they have more freedom to move around. They say, you know, if the coaches have that kind of freedom, why? Why? Why don’t we get that kind of freedom?
- Well, I just, I’m not convinced it’s very good, because I don’t think it gives them a sense of home or or how to develop roots. It is just, it’s become almost a mercenary mentality, where whoever pays me the most, that’s where I’m going and and that, I’m not saying that money’s not important, but if that ends up being the only decision over everything else, and I think it happens quite a bit, then what? A lot of times kids end up leaving a really good basketball situation for them and going to they’re getting paid more, but they go to a way worse basketball situation, a system they don’t understand, you know, they’re used to being the star here now they’re just a role player, a different kind of, you know, they take a lesser role, and so then they’re unhappy, even though they’re making a bunch more money, they’re unhappy because the basketball is not the same. So I think there’s a lot of things that aren’t good about it. I also think, you know, they, they say, coaches have the freedom, but, but we don’t like we sign contracts and we have buyouts we have, and I think, I almost think that we should treat it like that. If a player’s going to come here and get n i L, then I think he should sign a contract, and there should be a buyout. If he goes somewhere else, he should either have to pay us, or the other school should have to pay us for him to go there for you know, because we’re putting investment in him. Just like if I left SIU, I would owe SIU a lot of money. That’s the way the contracts are written. And if the players want to deal in the real world, then we should deal in the real world, instead of just every year, you get to decide where you’re going to go, we should start putting them under contracts. And I’m not crazy about it, but, but I also understand it’s important. I don’t want to bury my head in the sand and say nil is not important, because it is. And the fact matters were all the same. If there were two jobs, then the jobs were similar, and one job was paying more than the other, you’re probably going to go to the one that pays the most because you feel like they want you the most. And money’s important. So we have to understand and consider that money is important. Get as much money as we can for nil, but we also have to merge it with our values. We can’t just throw our values out the door and just go throw a bunch of money at people, because they could not be the right people. Even, you know, it could be a great player that’s not the right person for our program or what we want. And so we start to figure out a way to deal in n, i L, but also merge it with our values, yeah,
- Yeah, I don’t know, and I want to be careful how I say it, because but, but I’ve learned, like, I can’t be a good coach if, if I’m worried about what other people think. There’s always expectations. People either expect you to be good or they expect you to be bad, or they expect to be average, but that’s they’re all expectations. You would always like to exceed people’s expectations. Now it’s much more difficult to do when you’re good and expect to be good. I but I like I want people to expect us to be good. I want that to become the standard where we expect you to be good. Now, you set yourself up for more disappointment, and it’s the same thing if you have high goals that you never reach people that set really high goals, and they may not, may never reach like never attain my goals, but I get way more done than somebody that sets low goals and reaches their goals, but, but if you’re going to be really good, and that’s going to be the expectation, then you have to get used to being disappointed, where it’s easy to be happy If your goals are set low, because, oh, we met them, but you didn’t get anything done. You just set low goals. We’re going to set them high, but, but I also, you know, I stay off social media, I don’t I don’t read the paper, I don’t watch the news, because I can’t concern myself with what other people think I had. Because when I start doing that, I get concerned about myself when I’m concerned about myself, and I’m not a very good coach, so I’ve learned to shut all that out, all the outside noise, and really limit the information I get. And if I want to know something, I ask my assistant coaches because, because they keep track of all of it,
- the basketball is not much different, other than, yeah, other than, you know, the only difference I have here is I only have one person out of, you know, when you look at we have 15 players and so like 23 people, one, only one person was with me last year, 23 of those people. Where, if I go back to Wright State last year, you know, you have 23 people. And you could probably say three people weren’t with me last year, you know, be the freshman that joined us. So that’s been a biggest adjustment is, for me, basketball wise, is I’ve had to, you know, Coach the coaches, coach the players more than I normally do, because normally my coaches in the summer are doing more than coaching. I’m doing more than watching. So I just had to do a lot more coaching, which is fine. I mean, that’s part of my job, obviously. So it’s taken a lot more energy from me, because I’ve had so many, so many people that had them with me that I’ve had to teach in the way that I want it done. And then, you know, other than that, and the family is just, you know, this is where I say. You know, Brookings was more like Carbondale and that, you know, we’re not real close to a city. There are less options in choices, but sometimes that’s not bad either. You know, we like living in a more rural area, and we still have plenty of options. We don’t live far from Marion, but you know, you don’t have there’s some things about a city like Dayton that that are convenient, that you can get to and and you know, we were close to Cincinnati, so we would just, you know, outside of basketball, we had more options and more cultural things you could, you know, like a like, my daughter was in dance, so you could get ballets and, you know, concerts and things like that that you’re much closer to. So you know, you just but, but we spent 21 years in Brookings. We know what that’s like, and it was a great place to raise kids and safe. And so wherever we live, we live, that’s where God put us. Yeah, all right.
Scott Nagy (pratice)
- probably mostly turning the ball over, less too many turn overs right now, some of that just comes from none of these guys have played for me, so they’re still trying to learn the system. There’s some unsurreness that goes with that and that leads to turn overs, so they’re learning that we’re getting better.
- just interviews, mostly, I mean, a couple of guys we kept that were on a staff last year, Jevon Mamon. So, you know, it just helps to have somebody that knows the system here, knows the players that stayed and so then the other one was Justin Endsley, he’s our director basketball operations. He really knows the school system, you know, just all the travel, all the stuff that goes with it. So it puts us way ahead. If I had to hire somebody new in that position, they’d have a lot to learn, or just knew all of it, and then the others were just interviews,
- All that’s good. Camaraderie is good. Staff gets along well.
- Yeah, probably late December. You know, by the time we start the real conference now, you know, we play conference game early December. I think time to come back after Christmas, you know, is when we should have a little better feel okay.
Jevon Mamon
- My sixth year here, its my first year with Nagy
- transitions been pretty good, obviously, two different personalities, but what Coach brings to the table in regards to I his experience. I mean, obviously, 30 years as head coach, he has a great idea of how he already wants things done. Kind of sticks to that, although he’s open ideas and suggestions. But obviously it wasn’t experiences working well for him. Obviously, he’s one everywhere that you’ve been, everywhere he’s been in, and so I look forward to being able to learn from him and what he brings to the table every day.
- Yeah, I think Coach has great relationships with the guys. He’s very direct. He’s a very direct person. You know, I think the guys know what they expect from him? He does a great job of connecting with him individually. So in regards to meshing with the guys, I feel like it was one of the easy transitions, even though, when you’re learning 13, 14, new personalites and new guys and everybody’s, you know, trying to learn him and what he demands from guys, it definitely takes some time. But you know, that’s the benefit of being able to have summer access and spending eight weeks together over the summer. And obviously, you know the title we had in the fall,
- I don’t think so. You know, he he does everything, and especially everything to be done in such urgency. And I think, I think, you know, he’s going to be the same on the sidelines, regards to demanding the pace of play and defending just the execution that he demands. I’m sure that, you know, some things will be a little bit different, you know, come games. But I don’t Coach Nate is who coach Nagy is. And I think what you see on a day to day basis in the office and on the court of practice, I feel like that’s where he’ll be in the game as well.
- Let me check if I have anything else. I mean, obviously this isn’t your first coach that you’ve had to transition with.
- I think our expectations would I think coach’s expectations for the guys is one, just to compete hard every possession, compete at a high level of every possession, and keep physical like, that’s, that’s the start of it, like his expectations, just, you know, we want to be the most competitive, the most physical group, to almost where we will the other team to break, you know. And as every coach you know, when you start talking about plays and things of that nature, obviously wants a high level execution. But if the effort, if the effort isn’t there, it’s going to be hard to execute anyway. So just what they bring to the table, with their energy, with their with their communication, you know? And again, it’s with our physicality and just how hard we go. That’s, that’s where it starts for us.
- Yeah, definitely. I don’t know how soon a trip like that would come, but he does enjoy that philanthropic side, other than giving back something that you know, we may not go on a trip right away, but I think that, you know, we will see something done here on campus or as part of a game where you know something you know, to that effect, where we give back, or it’s some type of saloon, or bring some type of awareness to that cause during the game over the course of the year.
- I mean, one, we’re looking forward to a great year again. We all have the expectation that we can win the league and we can have a really good year. And Coach Nagy has expressed that from day one. I think people will be looking forward to his style of play and kind of you know, how we’re going to play. The group of guys have been working extremely hard. They have been giving coach everything that he’s asked for, just looking forard to a great year.
Justin Endsley
- So I’ve been in this position full time for going on two years now, and I actually was here four years as a student manager, so going on six years here.
- Yeah, you know, it’s obviously been a big change, obviously with the staff transition back in March, my my future was uncertain. I didn’t know what I was going to do, and I was fortunate enough in early April to get a call from Coach Nagy, and got to meet with him, and he offered me the position to stay back and be his director of operations, and we had a really good talk. And since we’ve been going here past six months, it’s been crazy, obviously, putting a whole new team together and getting him used to SIU system, our new assistant coaches, but, but it’s been been really good to learn who he is as a person and as a coach, and every day as a staff, we’re getting closer with one another and learning a lot from each other.
- He’s a super intense coach. Practice has moved extremely fast every every drill is timed, and we try to stick to that as much as possible. He demands a lot out of his players and staff as well, but he gives everyone a little bit of freedom to do it the way they want to do, as long as everyone does it the right way, and he gets what he wants out of it.
- wants to win a championship. That’s what we tell our guys every day. We’re here to win a championship. It’s been since 2007 Since southern has been to the NCAA tournament. Coaches obviously had five tournament runs, and wants to do that here. So every day, just creating that championship culture with our guys and our staff and putting in the extra work, getting after it and practice and making sure we’re doing all the right things, not only on the court, but off the court as well. Yeah,
- so on the court, he wants our guys in here getting shots of before and after practice. That’s one of his big things. Is, if you, if you just show up for practice that honestly, that’s probably not going to help you much, like you need to get in, put in that extra work, create that championship culture. And we’ve got plenty of coaches, managers, things like that, that are more than willing to stick around and help rebound. Got lots of different equipment for them, so we just try to encourage them to be in the gym as much as possible, and putting in that extra work will help us down the road as we get into season here in a month or so, and as we get into Valley play in January and February and hopefully make that championship run in St Louis for Arch madness tournament.
- obviously, with a whole new team and new staff, there are a lot of unknowns throughout the fall, summer, fall and start of official practice here, our main goal has been to try to get our team to gel together as much as possible. When you bring in 10 new players, you’ve got guys coming from all over, all different backgrounds, different styles of basketball. So what we’ve really tried to focus on is have this group gel together, understand how coach runs his offense and defense. So as we start games in November here and everything. It should try to take it game by game and get better and ultimate, ultimately, play our best basketball in January and February as we get into Valley. Play
- Yeah, no, obviously coach, Nagy is a great guy. I’ve really enjoyed working for him. He’s been really, really good to me. We’ve developed a great friendship and relationship over the past six months, and I have as well with our assistant coaches. He’s a man of faith, man of few words, but he expects a lot out of his staff and players, and I think that part is really going to help us grow as a team and into the culture that he wants to create here at Southern Illinois. Like I said, we’re just focused on getting that championship culture back and making sure our guys achieve on the court and off the court as well.
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